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gidget28
Buccaneer

38 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  12:30:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello i was wondering if removing the hardtop before transporting my 1967 40 is a big job, or if anyone is interested in doing this with me in june of this year? the boat is located in st. paul. it is in great condition and i dint know if this would take away from its value. thanks jeff

drrishi1
OLD SALT

USA
371 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  13:33:09  Show Profile  Send drrishi1 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
got any pictures? sometimes you have to remove things!

Edited by - drrishi1 on 02/06/2010 14:17:26
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gidget28
Buccaneer

38 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2010 :  17:43:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it would be removing the entire helm statiom as in photo, thanks, jeff
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captbillny
OLD SALT

USA
134 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2010 :  13:21:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had to pull the flybridge from my 1972 38' SF before moving it from NY to MO. The main thing is keeping the various wires from the lower station electrical feed to the flybridge panel organized.

One simple way to do it is cut a small piece of plywood approximately the shape of the flybridge panel. As you remove the wires from the flybridge panel, just screw them onto the plywood in the same layout. This way nothing gets mixed up and it's easy to put together on the other end.

Other than that, unhook the steering, transmission and throttle cables, take out the screws holding the flybridge to the top and lift it up. Once you lift the bridge off, you might find that the wood holding it to the top is not in great shape – this is a great time to replace it. This is also a good time to replace carpet and trim along the bottom of the flybridge if you need to.
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gidget28
Buccaneer

38 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2010 :  18:10:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the info, but i would need to take the entire top off for transport. i dont have a fly bridge on it. as in the photo you sent the station they are standing on need to come off, because i need a height of 12 2 to transport. thanks for your input again, jeff
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endlessly
OLD SALT

USA
118 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2010 :  13:54:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you want to remove the aft deck roof, not a flybridge.I had a Pace like yours and have a 73 40 ft now. From the keel to the waterline is approx 3.5 ', fron the waterline to the aft deck is approx 5.5' from the aft deck to the roof is approx 6.5'----total 14.5 ft. To get down to 12' you not only have to remove the roof, you must also cut upright supports and remove all glass.

This is a HUGE project and needs a master carpenter to reconstruct at destination. If you accept help to do this, it had better be a master craftsman

Bob and Maria
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lsd673
Swabbie

Canada
5 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2010 :  21:40:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Indeed, not a small job. Moved a 38ft similar but without hard top. Windshield and side glass had to be removed, including frames... it is still not the way it was as no master carpenter was available to reassemble. The dismantle cost was $1000.





Edited by - lsd673 on 02/10/2010 21:50:31
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gidget28
Buccaneer

38 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2010 :  12:29:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey guys, thankyou for all the input and photos, i think i'll skip this and bring her to fla, down the mississippi and tennesee rivers, less money and more enjoyable, anyone interested or has done this trip before? jeff
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Pole Position
OLD SALT

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2010 :  14:23:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like a fun trip. Good luck and take a lot of pix!
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cap mike
OLD SALT

USA
809 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2010 :  13:42:15  Show Profile  Visit cap mike's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree I would never remove my unless I had no other choice, because not often do they get put back right.

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captbillny
OLD SALT

USA
134 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2010 :  09:53:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jeff,

I sent you an email also. I may be able to help for part of the trip - starting at St. Louis.

Bill
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gidget28
Buccaneer

38 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2010 :  13:13:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bill, i did not get the email,its bad.porsche@hotmail.com thanks
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sakesler
Swabbie

9 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2010 :  15:56:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jeff, Funny, I found my '79 46' tri-cabin in St. Paul at Watergate Marina. Same situation, couldn't get the transport height down to 12' 6". Finally realized the only way to get it to VA was on her own bottom. 2768 nm later, what an experience!!! We travelled down the upper Missippi, up the Illinois into Lake Michigan, up into Lake Huron, Georgian Bay, Trent Severn Canal, across Lake Ontario, down Oswego canal, through Erie Canal, into Hudson River, offshore at NY,Atlantic City, Ocean City, inside Chesapeak Bay at Cape Charles and on to Hopewell, VA.
We had planned on the Southern route such as yours, but Hurricane season had me spooked... I'll gladly share with you my experience. Email me at steve.kesler@us.schindler.com. I have all of the waterway guides, and contact information for a lady at Marine Navigation in LaGrange, Ill. that will be helpful.
If you'd like some help, and on the Miss with the locks, you'll really need at least 3 people, if not 4, let me know. Good Luck.

Blog of this trip up to Brewerton, Ny is at www.indulgence-voyage.blogspot.com

Edited by - sakesler on 03/21/2010 18:04:58
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gidget28
Buccaneer

38 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2010 :  14:05:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
steve thanks for the info. what as your fuel consumption and how many knots where you going? if you could send me some guides it would be very helpful, especially the upper mississippi to st louis, my email is bad.porsche@hotmail.com thanks
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aboatbum
First Mate

USA
66 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2010 :  03:12:54  Show Profile  Send aboatbum a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hi All; I was considering the same thing for my 44 ft Pacemaker Flushdeck. Currently on Lake Erie in Ohio and moving to Galvaston Texas, I had already removed the flybridge. I have since bought another boat, (47ft EggHarbor) The Egg has a full hartop with enclosed sides with windows. What a nightmare if I cut all that off and try to replace it. So I will be floating her down to Texas on her own bottom. Have not decided whether to just find "friends" who would like to make the trip or hire people to do the trip for me. I have read some diaries from the Great Loop Website and have tallyed that it will take me a total of 6-7 weeks to make the trip. Any other people tried this yet? I am looking at 2011 to do this. Any Idea's of when is the best time, Early Spring, Summer or Fall? Best wishes, Denny
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